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    Post  Derek S on Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:43 pm

    Tanerios (Knossos or?)
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    Figure: D & D, Savage Encounters #31, Savage Minotaur

    General: Utgar
    Planet: Feylund

    Species: Minotaur
    Unique Hero
    Class: Beast
    Personality: Ferocious
    Medium 6?

    Life: 4
    Move: 5
    Range: 1
    Attack: 4
    Defense: 4
    90 Points

    Bull Charge
    If Tanerios starts his turn unengaged you may use Bull Charge. To use Bull Charge move Tanerios in a straight line. For each space Tanerios moves you may add 1 to his attack to a maximum of +3.

    Labrys
    If Tanerios does not use Bull Charge, and destroys a figure, any figure adjacent to both Tanerios and the destroyed figure receives 1 wound.


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    Post  Nomad on Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:52 pm

    I got the figure . . . any thoughts or ideas? Shall we start throwing out suggestions to get the ball rolling?
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    Post  Derek S on Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:06 pm

    feel free to throw out suggestions. I have got a little bit of an idea but haven't thought about it too much.
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    Post  Lord Kai on Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:48 pm


    I believe that c3v has accepted a new Unique Hero that utilizes the Reaper Mini that we used for Tecer. Maybe we could update Tecer with this Minotaur figure?
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    Post  Nomad on Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:30 pm

    I didn't see anything in the C3V threads regarding the use of Tecer.
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    Post  Lord Kai on Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:49 pm

    Sorry it was SoV, and the figure is Asterios.

    He has passed SoV induction but has not been officially added to the list of SoV/C3V. Scytale stated that the army card is with the "art department" still.


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    Post  Derek S on Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:50 pm

    The French fellas have the figurine used for Aristeos (I think) which is about to be inducted. I wouldn't mind transferring to this figure but double attack wouldn't make sense so I say Tecer and Aristeos can share the figure, and we can come up with a new set of powers for this figure.
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    Post  Nomad on Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:10 pm

    I'm all for sharing the figs as well - kind of like what we did with the Sylvan and Eilen Sidhe.
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    Post  Lord Kai on Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:48 pm

    Nomad wrote:I'm all for sharing the figs as well - kind of like what we did with the Sylvan and Eilen Sidhe.


    Cool, I'm down for that! We had Minotaurs FIRST!!!
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    Post  Derek S on Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:00 am

    Initial thoughts, although I would definitely be open to suggestions.

    Tanerios (some scrambled version or reference to Asterion or Knossos)
    General: Utgar
    Planet: Feylund

    Species: Minotaur
    Unique Hero
    Class: Beast
    Personality: Ferocious
    Medium 6?

    Life: 4
    Move: 5
    Range: 1
    Attack: 4
    Defense: 4
    90 Points

    Bull Charge
    If Tanerios starts his turn unengaged you may use Bull Charge. To use Bull Charge move Tanerios in a straight line. For each space Tanerios moves you may add 1 to his attack to a maximum of +3.

    Labrys
    If Tanerios does not use Bull Charge, and destroys a figure, any figure adjacent to both Tanerios and the destroyed figure receives 1 wound.
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    Post  Lord Kai on Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:41 pm

    Derek S wrote:Initial thoughts, although I would definitely be open to suggestions.

    Tanerios (some scrambled version or reference to Asterion or Knossos)

    Life: 4
    Move: 5
    Range: 1
    Attack: 4
    Defense: 4
    90 Points

    Bull Charge
    If Tanerios starts his turn unengaged you may use Bull Charge.  To use Bull Charge move Tanerios in a straight line.  For each space Tanerios moves you may add 1 to his attack to a maximum of +3.

    Labrys
    If Tanerios does not use Bull Charge, and destroys a figure, any figure adjacent to both Tanerios and the destroyed figure receives 1 wound.


    I like the powers but I think he's probably worth 110 points since he bonds and has "Cleave" with the LABRYS. His low Life score might bring him down to 100 points, as ranged squad might pick him apart.

    He's a single-spaced figure right, on a large round?


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    Post  Derek S on Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:46 pm

    He fits on a normal base. Yeah, he might be undercosted at this point, but still not real sure he is settled.
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    Post  Nomad on Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:45 pm

    I very much like the proposed powers and stats . . . yes, points will probably need to be higher. A potential attack of 7 v. hero, or attack of 4 v. squads (which could take out three of them) seems pretty potent to me.
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    Post  Nomad on Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:26 am

    Bump.

    This figure keeps staring at me from the bottom of the card box of promising figures.

    He yells, "I am a Minotaur! I am ready to do Battle!"

    I can't argue with that. I think he is pretty close to play-testing.
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    Post  Derek S on Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:37 pm

    Will consider and see where we are at soon.
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    Post  Derek S on Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:36 am

    If powers/stats/name/etc. are good with everyone we would just need to find a starting point for cost before testing. How about 110?
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    Post  Nomad on Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:20 pm

    110 sounds good for starters. Let's move him to play testing.
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    Post  Lord Kai on Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:49 pm

    Tanerios has a similar Cleave power to Tandros ... so we might want to consider a Name Change : P

    We could also go with something more like Shurrak's Sweeping Sword Special Attack (though I get the bonus for charging would not apply to a Special Attack).

    The Minotaurs lack a Special Attack, so that might be something to round-out their Army.


    btw - Did we ever do any play-testing with the "BEAST Bonding" with Arrow Gruts? I think Tecer and the Minotaurs were the play-tests that I saw.
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    Post  Nomad on Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:06 am

    Derek and discussed this figure in the summer. Here is what we settled on:

    Creterios
    Utgar

    Minotaur
    Unique Hero
    Beast
    Ferocious
    Large 6

    Life: 4
    Move: 5
    Range: 1
    Attack: 4
    Defense: 4
    90 Points

    Labrys Special Attack
    Range 1. Attack 3.
    Choose 2 adjacent figures, roll dice once for both figures, etc (will work on the wording later).

    Bull Charge
    If Creterios attacks a figure that was not adjacent at the start of his turn, add 1 to the attack (will work on the wording later).


    Jacob and I actually got in three play tests with this figure in August (I just found my notes today as I was playing with plastic and putting away armies from last June).

    I ran with Creterios, Tecer, Apeo, and Minotaurs of Nullondia x2 = 450 points against a variety of Jacob's armies (Romans, Harpies, Skeletons). The special attack adds something that was missing from the Minotaur faction. This figure provides something different than the other Minotaur heroes. I rushed Creterios in each battle before using Tecer or Apeo to see what he was made of. Creterios can fall against ranged squads but still do some damage, but he did kick butt and dominate against melee-based armies. This said, I am tempted to say we should reduce his normal attack to 3 (he already gets a bonus for not being engaged with a figure initially). I like his point value at 90.
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    Post  Nomad on Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:27 am

    Rough draft of the card. Feedback appreciated.

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    Post  Lord Kai on Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:44 pm

    I would suggest altering the picture on this one so you can see the Axe (Labrys). I like how he's staring you down in the pic though : )

    Or maybe change the power to Great Axe Special Attack?
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    Post  Nomad on Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:49 pm

    I think Derek liked Labrys, which is a great axe. I tried a number of different positions in the photo-shoot. Looking at the fig from the side, it is still difficult to tell that he is holding an axe because he is holding nearly horizontal. This pic looked the best to me, but we can change it if a better one can be taken.
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    Post  Lord Kai on Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:54 pm

    Nomad wrote:I think Derek liked Labrys, which is a great axe. I tried a number of different positions in the photo-shoot. Looking at the fig from the side, it is still difficult to tell that he is holding an axe because he is holding nearly horizontal. This pic looked the best to me, but we can change it if a better one can be taken.

    Cool, it is a pretty great picture .. we'll just have to post some 'on the battlefield' action shots to show the Labrys chopping up some 4th Mass Line ; )

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