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    Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:14 am

    In the second post is what is on the table to start considering for now . . . sorry if I missed anything after trolling our topics.

    This first post will be a placeholder for figures under serious consideration.

    Examine the list below. Nominate your top 10 that you would like to see developed. I'm thinking we should go on the fast-track . . . minimal play-testing (we can judge most things pretty quickly). In my opinion, let's try to complete figures that have seen some discussion unless new units come up that are a must.

    Thanks for having fun with me!


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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:14 am

    Here is what is on the table to start considering . . . sorry if I missed anything after trolling our topics.

    Kai:
    Kayla Willowsong, Ullar Elf Ranger
    Varinn, Ullar Elf Ranger
    Bearded Devil, Valkrill Demon
    Owl Bear, Aquilla Totem
    Mallekim, Utgar Djinn
    Vurgoyles, Utgar or Valkrill unique squad or common hero
    Phase Spider, Utgar Arachnid
    Rakhalar the War Troll, Utgar Unique
    Black Arrow Assassins, Valkill Unique Squad
    Horned Demons, Valkrill Uncommon Hero
    Sir Agronn, Einar Hero
    Lion Guards, Einar Unique Squad
    D&D Icons of Realms Starter Set, 6 figures
    Malcar, Utgar Troll Champion
    SoV Morgan, Sky Cavalier
    Ring Wraith from Combat Hex, Shades help
    Marine Soldiers, unique squad
    Forest Drake
    Bronze medium dragons
    Solonavi Domineer, Mage Knight
    DEVLIN SKYHAWK, Reaper Bones mini from a couple of x-mas ago
    XAVIER LAWSON, Reaper Bones mini from a couple of x-mas ago
    DELANDRIA, Reaper Bones mini from a couple of x-mas ago
    ELLEN STONE, Reaper Bones mini from a couple of x-mas ago
    UNA Jam Unique Hero or squad
    War Troll from D&D War Drums
    Minions of Utgar - (Barbarians) remod/repaint
    Frostwolf
    Wizard - Temple of the West
    Mohican Shaman
    Hush conversion
    Unique Gnoll Archer mentioned in a Gnoll thread
    Space Marines
    Conrad Snowdyn
    Minotaur
    Awesome Dragon
    Brute Hero

    Derek:
    Swift Draw/Mad Dog Hardin, Valkrill Outlaw
    Kheir ed-Din/Kapudan Barbarossa, Utgar Pirate
    Rattlesnake Reed, Utgar Outlaw
    Quartermaster, Utgar Pirate
    Tannerios, Utgar Minotaur
    Canoneers/Cannon, Einar common squad/destructible object
    Kamero/Ookami, Samurai/Wolf rebuild
    Djinni, super cool pathfinder figure!!!
    Cogs AT-43, Unique squad?
    Ursula, Dwarf on Bear
    Huge Dragon, Large Bones figure to be painted
    Sudema help, Pathfinder mini
    Wasp
    Forge Unique Hero
    Airborne Elite Repaints - Unique squads with a general/commander (Damon/Derek)
    Tarn Viking Common Squad Repaints (Damon/Derek)

    Damon: I haven't posted some of these figures yet (I've been brainstorming on my own)
    Yalzochar Drider, Utgar Drow/Arachnid
    Tearik Drako, Einar Drake
    Marro Abomination repaint (thread started by Rook), Utgar Hivelord
    Lea Roan/Argil - Jandar Scythian warrior
    Cathar/Ascalon Calvary - Einar unique squad/hero
    Severian, Einar Ascalon/Cathar hero
    Thurbard and Thurbard mounted, Einar Ascalon/Cathar hero
    Davion hero, the original figure for Micheal Davion
    Icarian hero #3
    Icarian hero #4
    Blue Young Dragon
    Mummies from the Adventurers Set, unique squad Sudema help
    Egyptian from the Adventurers Set, unique hero

    All those excellent heroes from the recent Iconic Pathfinders release. I haven't got my creative juices flowing yet, but most of them are awesome.
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:23 am

    Oh, Kai can you sticky this thread?
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:14 am

    Here is my "short list" of 20 figures for this wave. Yes, they are all unique. Do we do a full unique wave?!

    Lea Roan/Argil - Jandar Scythian warrior
    Yalzochar Drider, Utgar Drow/Arachnid
    Tearik Drako, Einar Drake
    Mummies from the Adventurers Set, unique squad Sudema help
    HAYATO NAKAYAMA, HUMAN SAMURAI (Pathfinder - Iconic Heroes set)
    REIKO, HUMAN NINJA (Pathfinder - Iconic Heroes set)
    SELTYIEL, HALF-ELF MAGUS/DROW (Pathfinder - Iconic Heroes set)
    Djinni, super cool pathfinder figure!!!
    Swift Draw/Mad Dog Hardin, Valkrill Outlaw
    Kheir ed-Din/Kapudan Barbarossa, Utgar Pirate
    Rattlesnake Reed, Utgar Outlaw
    Quartermaster, Utgar Pirate
    Tannerios, Utgar Minotaur
    Kayla Willowsong, Ullar Elf Ranger
    Varinn, Ullar Elf Ranger
    Bearded Devil, Valkrill Demon
    Owl Bear, Aquilla Totem
    Mallekim, Utgar Djinn
    SoV Morgan, Sky Cavalier
    Ring Wraith from Combat Hex, Shades help
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Lord Kai on Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:22 am

    Mostly done:
    Kayla Willowsong, Ullar Elf Ranger
    Varinn, Ullar Elf Ranger

    Need some rewording/point-adjustment:
    Sir Morgan, Sky Cavalier
    Rakhalar the War Troll, Utgar Unique
    Devlin Skyhawk (Lawmen), Reaper Bones mini from a couple of x-mas ago
    Xavier Lawson (Champion?), Reaper Bones mini from a couple of x-mas ago
    Delandria, Reaper Bones mini from a couple of x-mas ago
    Ellen Stone (Cowboy/Lawmen), Reaper Bones mini from a couple of x-mas ago

    I would love to get these figures play-tested, as I liked my original designs (especially Ellen Stone for the Lawmen), but they need a little work.


    Need Powers/Development (but would prioritize my time):

    Mallekim, Utgar Djinn
    Horned Demons, Valkrill Uncommon Hero
    Bronze medium dragons
    Owl Bear, Aquilla Totem
    Space Marine Soldiers, unique squad
    Vurgoyles, Utgar or Valkrill unique squad or common hero
    Lord of the Rings, Elf Archer (combat hex)


    Need work:

    Bearded Devil, Valkrill Demon
    Phase Spider, Utgar Arachnid
    Black Arrow Assassins, Valkill Unique Squad
    Sir Agronn, Einar Hero
    Lion Guards, Einar Unique Squad
    Malcar, Utgar Troll Champion
    Ring Wraith from Combat Hex, Shades help
    Forest Drake
    Solonavi Domineer, Mage Knight
    UNA Jam Unique Hero or squad
    Minions of Utgar - (Barbarians) remod/repaint
    Frostwolf
    Wizard - Temple of the West
    Mohican Shaman
    Hush conversion
    Unique Gnoll Archer mentioned in a Gnoll thread
    Conrad Snowdyn
    Minotaur
    Awesome Dragon
    Hornskull Brute Hero
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:01 pm

    How do we want to proceed?

    Some options:

    1. Continue with the two-man crew of Nomad and Lord Kai here on Cryptic Alliance.
    2. Continue with the two-man crew, but post our ideas for units Heroscapers to get feedback (open to public input, but we retain decision making).
    3. Continue on Cryptic Alliance, but invite one or two others aboard (Dr.Groomonkey, Dysole, William99, or others).
    4. Take it all to Heroscapers . . . become kind of like SoV, but with a panel that includes us from the NW.
    5. Discontinue NWHC and post our designs separately on Heroscapers . . .

    The reason for bringing this up is that I think it would be nice to have one or two other voices. Since Derek is not able to participate much . . . There are times that I really need creative input on figures (not that you haven't been doing that, just that other ideas would be good too). I noticed that you have kind of been doing that with the "customs from Kai" topic on HS.

    There are other options that I haven't thought of, for sure. I really don't like option 4 or 5, or even 3. I would be kind of in favor of option 2. We could start a new topic where we post our units and ask for input . . . maybe even run polls every now and then. We would continue here for throwing out initial ideas, discussion, and then finalizing things.

    Anyways. Please share your thoughts.
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Lord Kai on Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:45 pm

    Nomad wrote:How do we want to proceed?

    Some options:

    1. Continue with the two-man crew of Nomad and Lord Kai here on Cryptic Alliance.
    2. Continue with the two-man crew, but post our ideas for units Heroscapers to get feedback (open to public input, but we retain decision making).
    3. Continue on Cryptic Alliance, but invite one or two others aboard (Dr.Groomonkey, Dysole, William99, or others).
    4. Take it all to Heroscapers . . . become kind of like SoV, but with a panel that includes us from the NW.
    5. Discontinue NWHC and post our designs separately on Heroscapers . . .

    The reason for bringing this up is that I think it would be nice to have one or two other voices. Since Derek is not able to participate much . . . There are times that I really need creative input on figures (not that you haven't been doing that, just that other ideas would be good too). I noticed that you have kind of been doing that with the "customs from Kai" topic on HS.

    There are other options that I haven't thought of, for sure. I really don't like option 4 or 5, or even 3. I would be kind of in favor of option 2. We could start a new topic where we post our units and ask for input . . . maybe even run polls every now and then. We would continue here for throwing out initial ideas, discussion, and then finalizing things.

    Anyways. Please share your thoughts.

    Well certainly NOT going with # 5.

    # 2. is solid. I think we can do a Pre-NWHC's thread if we get stuck (sort of like Pre-SoV). Get some ideas from people, check wording, etc.

    I'm getting less and less excited about the Heroscapers on Heroscapers.com. Too many clicks/sub-groups. I like our stuff - and think it is very high quality. I'm diving into other creative projects right now .. and less 'Scape. But it will always be a staple of my gaming diet : )

    Some planning-ahead would help to get gaming/play-testing going. March 18th sounds like a fun 'just play' day. Maybe you can suggest a few play-test days after that.


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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Lord Kai on Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:17 pm

    I picked up two new figures for each of us.

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f58/13/40/32/34/drowsw10.jpg


    Yuuzhan Vong Jedi Hunter - 58
    Legacy of the Force

    Drow Elite Warrior - 006
    Icons of the Realms: Monster Menagerie 2


    They look pretty good up close and are good scale with Heroscape.  The Drow made me think of a "theme" for Wave 5:  Dark Elves vs Light Elves.  We'll have Varinn & Kayla for new elves and their power is "Alliance of the Elves."  Maybe there are two Drow we can make (this 'Elite Warrior' and the Drider) to add to the Drow faction.

    Could also have a Law vs Chaos theme - since we have Outlaws & Cowboys in the works.
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:56 am

    Option 2 sounds good to me. Let's talk at the Hero/Kai-scape day about next steps.

    The figures look great. I have another Drow in the works as well.
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Derek S on Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:39 pm

    Sorry guys I haven't been to involved. Hopefully i can get back into it a bit, but with kids busy and my other undertakings, I won't have the time I once did (for periods of time). I kind of like keeping it away from heroscapers for the design process. I think adding 1 guy wouldn't be a bad thing though- who I don't know. Or maybe Jacob could get more involved and I could make sure to participate at a weekly level. I really don't like the idea of forgoing/cutting back on play testing, that is part of what I thought made our customs better than most. There are a quite a few of our released figures I have to try out, which is okay (every time I try to set something up 200 figures come out from the bins, clean those up and the map is added to and 20 new figures are out Shocked ) I really do enjoy this and will make every effort to reassert some effort, but hopefully you guys will be okay with some slow down periods.
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:16 pm

    Thanks for chiming in, Derek. This is a super busy time for me too - getting Lazyman and the Hero/Kai event on 3/18 ready to go. I will return to commenting in a few weeks.
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:20 am

    Kai and I are OK with getting design suggestions from Heroscapers. Not voting or having any real say in our final product or anything like that - just getting suggestions. In a way, we have already been doing this with some of the repaints and mods plus a few of Kai's figures. Nothing we get on Heroscapers would be binding or anything.

    I would be fine with adding a new member to the team. The two Eugene area peeps seem too active with SoV and tend to comment on things on Heroscapers so often that I don't feel like I could keep up with them. Dr.Goomonkey from Marysville seems to have interest in our conversations and is starting to active in the custom field. If we did invite someone, my vote would be for Dr.Goomonkey.

    Let me know your thoughts.
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:12 pm

    This seem close - some are done, some need slight tweaking, some need playtesting, while some are still in brainstorming. Let me know if I am missing anything. All Unique Wave.

    Kapudan Barbaros - Einar, Pirate
    Nathaniel Ward - Vydar, Quartermaster
    Owl Spirit - Aquilla, Tribesman
    Varinn - Ullar, Ranger
    Kayla Willowsong - Ullar, Ranger
    Borvund - Aquilla, Dwarf on bear
    Quick Draw Hardin - Valkrill, Cowboy
    Rattlesnake Reed - Utgar, Cowboy
    Khorliss Scirh - Valkrill, Cultist
    Cephalax - Aquilla, Scorpion
    Tearik Drako - Einar, Drake
    Kazumi Matsuko - Einar, Samurai
    Kapta Jorn - Aquilla, Mariedian
    Murazath - Utgar, Undead Duke
    Corpse Tormentors - Vydar, Mummies
    Hatamoto Jiro - Einar, Samurai
    Mallekim - Utgar, Djin
    Lea Roan - Jandar, Champion
    Lea Argil - Jandar, Champion
    Yazlochar - Utgar, Drider/Drow
    Creterios - Utgar, Minotaur
    Artillieurs du Loire - Einar, Cannoneers
    Field Cannon

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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:06 pm

    Brainstorming this release, names of the packs are just placeholders. The cards that I uploaded were completed 6-7 months ago, except for a few that I completed today (2/10/19). EDIT: I have added a comment with the stage of development (few = less than 5, many = 5 or more). The hotter the color, the closer to release.

    Good Guy Heroes
    Kapta Jorn - Aquilla, Mariedian - a few play tests
    Kapudan Barbaros - Einar, Pirate - brainstorming
    Varinn - Ullar, Ranger - a few play tests
    Lea Roan - Jandar, Champion - many play tests
    Lea Argil - Jandar, Champion - many play tests


    Leaders and Cheerleaders
    Yalzochar - Utgar, Drider/Drow - FINAL but need to settle on a name
    Kayla Willowsong - Ullar, Ranger - a few play tests
    Kazumi Matsuko - Einar, Samurai - many play tests
    Hatamoto Jiro - Einar, Samurai - a few play tests
    Murazath - Utgar, Undead Duke - FINAL

    Bad Guy Heroes
    Khorliss Scirh - Valkrill, Cultist - a few play tests
    Mallekim - Utgar, Djin - many play tests
    Quick Draw Hardin - Valkrill, Cowboy - a few play tests
    Rattlesnake Reed - Utgar, Cowboy - FINAL
    Nathaniel Ward - Vydar, Quartermaster - brainstorming

    Cannoneers
    Artillieurs du Loire - Einar, Cannoneers - brainstorming
    Field Cannon - brainstorming


    Special Release 1: Monsters of Aquilla and a Spider
    Owl Spirit - Aquilla, Tribesman - brainstorming
    Cephalax - Aquilla, Scorpion - a few play tests
    Borvund - Aquilla, Dwarf on bear - brainstorming
    Shelok - Utgar, Phase Spider - ready for play testing

    Special Release 2: A Bull, a Drake, and Sum Mummies
    Tearik Drako - Einar, Drake, many playtests - near final
    Creterios - Utgar, Minotaur - a few play tests
    Corpse Tormentors - Vydar, Mummies - many play tests
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    Re: Wave 5: Brainstorming

    Post  Nomad on Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:49 pm

    Edited the previous post with stage of development and fancy color-coding.

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