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    W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

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    W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Sun May 26, 2013 4:39 pm

    Sacred Fusiliers

    NWHC Wave 1 – The Fallen and the Faithful - Devout Defenders



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    Figures: Confrontation, Griffins of the Akkylannie Fusiliers Unit Box (8 per box)

    General: Einar
    Planet: Earth

    Species: Human
    Common Squad
    Class: Monk
    Personality: Devout
    Medium 5

    Life: 1
    Move: 5
    Range: 5
    Attack: 2
    Defense: 2
    70 Points

    HOLY ORDER BONDING
    Before taking a turn with the Sacred Fusiliers, you may first take a turn with any Cleric or Monk Unique Hero you control.

    HOLY GUARD
    All friendly Cleric and Monk Unique Heroes adjacent to at least 1 Sacred Fusilier you control receive an additional defense die.


    Character Bio:
    "We will defend against any enemies of faith. We are sacred because we honor and protect those who have sworn their faith. We are devout to their cause and we will die for their efforts," members of the fusilier-armed monks would say if they hadn't sworn a vow of silence. Summoned to Valhalla by General Einar from a post-apocalyptic Earth, these monks combine traditional weaponry, advanced gadgets, and, most importantly, a devoutness to heroes of faith.


    - Rulings and Clarifications -


    - Combinations and Synergies -

    Synergy Benefits Offered

    -Bishop Thaddeus: Divine Grimoire
    Having a Devout personality, a Sacred Fusilier may benefit Bishop Thaddeus with a Gold Devotion Marker if they are destroyed.

    -Holy Order Bonding: Monk and Cleric Unique Hero Bonding
    As a Monk or Cleric the following figures may benefit from the Sacred Fusiliers’ HOLY ORDER BONDING: Ana Karithon, Master Win Chiu Woo, Konrad Von Bramgur, Bishop Thaddeus.

    -Holy Guard: Monk and Cleric Unique Hero defense bonus
    As a Monk or Cleric the following figures may benefit from the Sacred Fusiliers’ HOLY GUARD defense bonus: Ana Karithon, Master Win Chiu Woo, Konrad Von Bramgur, Bishop Thaddeus.

    Synergy Benefits Received

    -Bishop Thaddeus: Divine Grimoire
    Having a Devout personality, a Sacred Fusilier may benefit from Bishop Thaddeus’ DIVINE GRIMOIRE Gold Devotion Marker removal attack bonus.

    -Count Raymond: Devout Leadership
    Having a Devout personality, a Sacred Fusilier may benefit from Count Raymond’s DEVOUT LEADERSHIP movement bonus.

    -Count Raymond: Maneuver 9
    Being a Human that follows Einar, a Sacred Fusilier may benefit from Count Raymond’s MANEUVER 9 leaving engagement roll.

    -Baron Sebastion: Forced March
    Having a Devout Personality, a Sacred Fusilier may benefit from Baron Sebastian's FORCED MARCH movement bonus.

    -Master Win Chiu Woo: Master’s Influence
    As monks, the Sacred Fusilier’s benefit from Master Win Chiu Woo’s MASTER’S INFLUENCE attack and defense bonus.

    Synergy Imposed

    -Baron Sebastian: Forced March
    Having a Devout Personality, a Sacred Fusilier may be wounded from Baron Sebastian's FORCED MARCH.


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    Change in Personality?

    Post  Nomad on Sun May 26, 2013 4:43 pm

    I like Kai's idea to have the Fusiliers change from Loyal to Devout (so they can earn the move bonus/leaving engagement possibility from Count Raymond).

    Everyone OK with this?

    I have played this squad a dozen times or so. Does anyone else want to do more play tests or can we move it to final editing?

    Thanks
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Lord Kai on Sun May 26, 2013 9:51 pm

    I like the change to Devout Smile

    I didn't mind the Paladin bonding either, but totally the designer's call. I vote we go Final.

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    Paladin Bonding?

    Post  Nomad on Sun May 26, 2013 10:28 pm

    Fusiliers, Woo, Ana, and Rhogar were very, very good with good strategy.

    Plus, the norm for heroscape is to name at max two personalities, classes, etc., to bond or receive synergies. So, this keeps it more in line with classic.

    So, two yes votes to move it to final editing (biography, final card, final approval).

    Derek - I totally understand if you want to do a play test or two - I know you haven't looked at them too closely for awhile.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Derek S on Mon May 27, 2013 11:44 am

    I like the Devout change. I agree with limiting it to clerics or monks, keeping more in line with classic.

    One last attempt at fitting in with classic a little more. The Shaolin Monks. The Sacred Fusiliers of St. Benedict (or some other branch/temple/etc. of monks would be appropriate here I think.)

    Other than that I like and think it is ready for final editing. On the card you already have done is it possible to have the white lettering (name, race,commonality, personality, etc.) a little more blocky or full if that makes sense. The Power titles are good. The power wording could be darkened or thicker a bit. I wouldn't mind the outside border a bit more purplish. Although the card is very well done (I am impressed and happy to use) so I wouldn't worry about it if it is too much work.
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    Fusiliers

    Post  Nomad on Mon May 27, 2013 1:55 pm

    Derek S wrote:One last attempt at fitting in with classic a little more. The Shaolin Monks. The Sacred Fusiliers of St. Benedict (or some other branch/temple/etc. of monks would be appropriate here I think.)

    I would rather not - it would lead one to think of these as either Buddhist Monks or Western Monks, I kind of want to leave it open (just religious monks).

    Derek S wrote:Other than that I like and think it is ready for final editing. On the card you already have done is it possible to have the white lettering (name, race,commonality, personality, etc.) a little more blocky or full if that makes sense. The Power titles are good. The power wording could be darkened or thicker a bit. I wouldn't mind the outside border a bit more purplish. Although the card is very well done (I am impressed and happy to use) so I wouldn't worry about it if it is too much work.

    I can try to make the white lettering bolder. I can't really match exactly what is on the official cards unless I want to purchase the same font they use for $30-$35, and I'm not eager to do that. The font that I used is as close as it is going to get without spending some dough. Yes - the border of the card are not as purple as the original HS cards, but it is more purple than the ones being released by C3V/SoV. I don't want to recreate the backgrounds, but if I have time I could possibly see if it is possible to alter them.
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    Thoughts?

    Post  Nomad on Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:50 am

    Any other thoughts?

    Kai voted we go final.

    Derek, have I addressed your concerns to your satisfaction? If not, let's keep it rolling and work it out so that it ends up being what we all can be happy with.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Derek S on Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:52 am

    I think it is awesome, so yeah to final editing here.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:08 pm

    I have updated the OP with the new Fusilier Card by changing the personality to devout and changing the font sizes to be more consistent with our other cards and HS cards.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Derek S on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:25 pm

    Excellent.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:28 pm

    Thanks.

    I have also put the updated basic card in the OP.
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    Bio

    Post  Nomad on Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:04 am

    A band of fusilier-armed brethren emerge from another newly formed allegiance:

    "We are sacred! We protect all that is holy and we do their bidding . . . for the right bid." Chuckles emerge from their kin . . .

    And then one, more upright than the others, voices, "Silence, fools!"

    "Yes. We are sacred. Yes! We will defend against any enemies of faith - be it faith in this god or that. We are sacred because we honor and protect those who have sworn their faith, of which they have more than us. We are devout to their cause and we will die for their efforts . . . as long as they pay us a little extra for our efforts . . .", as more chuckles emerge.

    "We are devout! We will do their bidding!" Nods of acceptance and willingness are accepted amongst the brethren.

    This creative writing stuff is kind of fun. Improvements?
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    Post  Derek S on Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:12 am

    And the whole time I'd imagined these Sacred Fusiliers as so devout they took a vow of silence.  Funny how preconceptions influence the thought process.  Awesome write up and entertaining. I'll see if I can make any suggestions tomorrow.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:23 am

    Yep, this is what I kind of had in mind when I first started their creation. Maybe we should write and post the bios before we do the stats/powers? It might give the rest of us the understanding of what was intended.

    My intent here is that these guys are not Buddhist monks or Christian monks, but rather that there are protectors of any faith, which is why I was reluctant to name them from a specific order/local. Henceforth - they can work with any cleric, any monk, etc., and be devout. They honor something about being sacred and are willing to add to that defense, but they need something tangible in exchange for that risk.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Derek S on Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:49 pm

    I think we all agreed Playtesting bumped these guys to 70 points.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:58 am

    Yes - 70 points. I still compare their numbers to the Orc Archers who are at 40 . . . but the way the fusiliers work with Woo and the potential of new monks, then 70 seems like the way to go.

    OP updated. Card change in progress.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:18 pm

    I also reworded the Holy Guard power in the OP.

    In comparing it to the Swog Rider, it was almost word for word. The Swog Riders bonus can stack for Arrow Gruts, which is not what we want, which can be confusing for players not in our group.

    Let me know if the new wording is OK.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Derek S on Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:43 am

    I think we could improve on the lingo to be more scapey.

    I'll give you my thoughts when I have a little more time- something along the lines of "receive 1 additional die, up to a maximum of 1.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:44 am

    Fusilier OP wrote:HOLY GUARD: All friendly Cleric and Monk Unique Heroes adjacent to a Sacred Fusilier receive up to a maximum of 1 additional defense die.

    Derek wrote:receive 1 additional die, up to a maximum of 1.

    They look pretty similar . . . I guess it is just the order of the clauses. I prefer the way it is currently written.

    The only squad that imparts defense to other figures are the Roman Legionnaires. But you can stack them up to a maximum of +2, so there is only a limited comparison.

    Legionnaires card wrote:add 1 defense die for each adjacent Roman Legionnaire you control up to a maximum of +2 dice

    Let me know if you come up with something better.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Derek S on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:18 pm

    Holy Guard
    All Cleric and Monk unique heroes adjacent to a Sacred Fusilier receive up to a maximum of 1 additional dice
    becomes
    All Cleric and Monk unique heroes you control adjacent to at least 1 Sacred Fusilier receive an additional defensive die.

    unless we want to allow opponents clerics and monks to get the bonus. The wording is loosely from the omnicron repulsors.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:13 pm

    Fusilier OP wrote:HOLY GUARD: All friendly Cleric and Monk Unique Heroes adjacent to a Sacred Fusilier receive up to a maximum of 1 additional defense die.

    Derek wrote:All Cleric and Monk unique heroes you control adjacent to at least 1 Sacred Fusilier receive an additional defensive die.

    Yes - gotcha. Much better.

    But what if my Woo is adjacent to my opponents Fusilier? And, I wouldn't mind the bonus helping friends. I haven't seen "defensive die" used before, so I'm changing it back to "defense die."

    How does this sound?

    HOLY GUARD
    All friendly Cleric and Monk Unique Heroes adjacent to at least 1 Sacred Fusilier you control receive an additional defense die.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Derek S on Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:25 pm

      HOLY GUARD: All friendly Cleric and Monk Unique Heroes adjacent to a Sacred Fusilier receive up to a maximum of 1 additional defense die.



       Derek wrote:All Cleric and Monk unique heroes you control adjacent to at least 1 Sacred Fusilier receive an additional defensive die.



    Yes - gotcha. Much better.

    But what if my Woo is adjacent to my opponents Fusilier? And, I wouldn't mind the bonus helping friends. I haven't seen "defensive die" used before, so I'm changing it back to "defense die."

    How does this sound?

    HOLY GUARD
    All friendly Cleric and Monk Unique Heroes adjacent to at least 1 Sacred Fusilier you control receive an additional defense die.

    Whats strange is I took that straight from the OP card adding unique heroes you control and changing the end, am I missing something?.  I definitely like the way  you have it worded the best.  Nice. for some strange reason I was missing the powers above the card- Sorry if I caused some confusion here.
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:27 pm

    Please vote based on the OP, not the card.

    I'm ready to put these guys to bed and stop printing different versions of their card. Read the OP carefully! If you see that it needs any change, even minor, then vote "no."
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Derek S on Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:28 pm

    Liked the bio and the rest looked great. Nice job Damon. (although I did like the fun of the 1st bio as well).
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    Re: W1 - Sacred Fusiliers - RELEASED

    Post  Nomad on Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:06 pm

    I will need one more official thumbs up on these guys if we are going to release them next week. Both the OP and the Card reflect our final efforts on the wording.

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