W6 - Quintus Flavius Magnus, Roman Archer Commander

Quintus Flavius Magnus
NWHC Wave 6 – ?? - ??





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Figure: Modified Heroscape Roman Archer with head/helmet of Marcus Decimus Gallus


General: Einar
Planet: Earth

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Archer
Personality: Disciplined
Medium 5

Life: 4
Move: 5
Range: 6
Attack: 2
Defense: 3
55 Points

HUMAN ARCHER COMMANDER
After revealing an order marker on this Army Card and taking a turn with Quintus Flavius Magnus, you may take a turn with one common Human Archer squad or hero you control. A figure activated with Human Archer Commander must be within 8 clear sight spaces of Quintus Flavius Magnus at the start of its move and may move 1 additional space.

TACTICAL FORMATION
All Human Archers within 2 clear sight spaces of Quintus Flavius Magnus add 1 to their attack and 1 to their defense dice. Tactical Formation does not affect Quintus Flavius Magnus.

ROMAN ARCHER TRAINING
Quintus Flavius Magnus may count as a Roman Archer for Arrow Volley even if he attacked this turn. Quintus Flavius Magnus does not need to be on the same level as the other two Roman Archers.


Character Bio:
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Concept borrowed from Bangerang's Quintus Quintus Rufius Metellus

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Cool.  Funny thing when I saw your post I was thinking all Archers with in so many spaces are considered on same level as Quintus.  Kind of addressed it.

Do we want him to exclusively work with Roman Archers or be more like Marcus?

Just Roman Archers, I think. We just released Matsuko Kazumi, which would cause a double-up of power with this figure. Also, I don't think the Aubrien Archers need much help since they already get some boosts from other elves.

Could do Common Human Archers?  Tugawa Samurai Archers are Samurai so wouldn't fit the bill. Just throwing out thoughts, not against working solely with Roman Archers. I do have a plethora of Archers from confrontation that should get developed at some point though.

Makes perfect sense. Human Archers does not include Tagawa Archers, Orc Archers, or Aubrien Archers.

How about:

HUMAN ARCHER COMMANDER
After revealing an order marker on this Army Card and taking a turn with Quintus Flavius Magnus, you may take a turn with one common Human Archer squad or hero you control. A figure activated with Human Archer Commander must be within 8 clear sight spaces of Quintus Flavius Magnus at the start of its move and may move 1 additional space.

TACTICAL FORMATION
All Human Archers within 2 clear sight spaces of Quintus Flavius Magnus add 1 to their attack and 1 to their defense dice. Tactical Formation does not affect Quintus Flavius Magnus.

ROMAN ARCHER TRAINING
Quintus Flavius Magnus may count as a Roman Archer for Arrow Volley if he did not attack this turn. Quintus Flavius Magnus does not need to be on the same level as the other two Roman Archers.

In HUMAN ARCHER COMMAND does the hero need to be common?  Not sure what c3v is doing with the common archer for Indians, but can't imagine any conflict here.  Like the fact he can benefit a few unique human archers.  Probably a bit a point cost jump with this rendition but looking good.

I have a couple of odd Roman Archers from a Craigslist purchase if we could use those as the base.

I have a bunch of extra Roman Archers - I just bought another squad a couple of months ago. And I have too many MDGs to even be funny. I will make one for you.

Yes - the hero needs to be common to benefit from HUMAN ARCHER COMMANDER.

There aren't any unique human archers out there yet, the only power that benefits them is TACTICAL FORMATION.

I hope we don't get a point bump - I kind of like him being the same price as a squad of Roman Archers.

Nomad wrote:Makes perfect sense. Human Archers does not include Tagawa Archers, Orc Archers, or Aubrien Archers.

How about:

HUMAN ARCHER COMMANDER
After revealing an order marker on this Army Card and taking a turn with Quintus Flavius Magnus, you may take a turn with one common Human Archer squad or hero you control. A figure activated with Human Archer Commander must be within 8 clear sight spaces of Quintus Flavius Magnus at the start of its move and may move 1 additional space.

TACTICAL FORMATION
All Human Archers within 2 clear sight spaces of Quintus Flavius Magnus add 1 to their attack and 1 to their defense dice. Tactical Formation does not affect Quintus Flavius Magnus.

ROMAN ARCHER TRAINING
Quintus Flavius Magnus may count as a Roman Archer for Arrow Volley if he did not attack this turn. Quintus Flavius Magnus does not need to be on the same level as the other two Roman Archers.

This looks pretty solid. The R. Archers needs soooo much help : ) I like the idea of Quintus counting as a Roman Archer for Arrow Volley. He only has a Attack 2 .. do you think it matters if he can attack first and then get the Volley in? It does bump to 4 attacks per OM (or 1 normal attack + 1 special attack). It is about the same # of dice (2/2/2/2 or 2/6).

Lord Kai wrote: This looks pretty solid.  The R. Archers needs soooo much help : )  I like the idea of Quintus counting as a Roman Archer for Arrow Volley.  He only has a Attack 2 .. do you think it matters if he can attack first and then get the Volley in?  It does bump to 4 attacks per OM (or 1 normal attack + 1 special attack).  It is about the same # of dice (2/2/2/2 or 2/6).

Hmm. So at least two of the archers would need to be next to Quintus in order for him to be part of the volley. That would be minimum rolls of 2/3/3/2 for a normal attack and rolls of 2/6 if using the volley if Quintus is part of it. Thanks for bringing this up. I think we will have to allow his normal attack before volley or else it would never be used.

A couple of reworks so far from the initial post:

HUMAN ARCHER COMMANDER
After revealing an order marker on this Army Card and taking a turn with Quintus Flavius Magnus, you may take a turn with one common Human Archer squad or hero you control. A figure activated with Human Archer Commander must be within 8 clear sight spaces of Quintus Flavius Magnus at the start of its move and may move 1 additional space.

ROMAN ARCHER TRAINING
Quintus Flavius Magnus may count as a Roman Archer for Arrow Volley even if he attacked this turn. Quintus Flavius Magnus does not need to be on the same level as the other two Roman Archers.

OP has been updated with the first attempt at a card for Quintus.

Roman Archer Training makes it sound like he is training. Maybe Roman Archer Trainor, Expert, Master or such.

Hopefully I will get to painting the mod today. On a thematic issue, if he is an expert do you think his attack should be a bit better than the Roman Archers- maybe 3 instead of 2? If I playtest I might start at 3 if you don't mind.

Hmm. I would like to keep him at 55 points.

4 attacks - 3, 2, 2, 2 or 2 attacks using volley 3, 6. Total investment between QFM and Archers is 110 points. Let me make some comparisons to other combos that might be similar.

ROMAN ARCHER TRAINER or EXPERT might be a better name for that power.