W-5 Kheir ed-Din Barbarossa- pirate hero brainstorming

Kheir ed-Din, Barbarossa, or full combo
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Figure: Reaper, Dark Heaven Legends Bones, Barnabus Frost, Pirate Captain

General: Utgar
Planet: Earth

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Lieutenant General, Captain, Pirate
Personality: Daring
Medium 5

Life: 6 (or 5)
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 3 (or 4)
? Points

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a figure attacked by Barbarossa or a pirate you control within clear site of Barbarossa receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5 your opponent may reveal a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 6-15 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 16 or higher, destroy the figure and replace it with a previously destroyed common squad Pirate you control.



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PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a figure attacked by Barbarossa or a pirate you control within clear site of Barbarossa receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5 your opponent may reveal a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 6-15 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 16 or higher, destroy the figure and replace it with a previously destroyed common squad Pirate you control.

Should this be:  "When a small or medium figure .... " so you can't destroy a Marrden Hound and replace with a Pirate, for example.

Do you want to make him Reckless, so that he bonds with the Corsairs. If not, his points will be much lower. I see the merits of both.

I do want him to bond with the Corsairs, but Reckless is not close to his real personality, so this is where I think a quartermaster may come into play a la Parmenio's disciplined. I also think there are some other Captain's out there that may not be Reckless. It is OK if he doesn't bond though. Without a figure for the quartermaster I don't know if I should proceed on write up, and then when suitable figurine found we release him, or just treat them separately and build any associated cost into the quartermaster at a later point. Thoughts?

Should this be: "When a small or medium figure .... " so you can't destroy a Marrden Hound and replace with a Pirate, for example.

I could see excluding huge, but I am not sure about that even. This is definitely something to discuss though. Perhaps placing the new Pirate adjacent to Barbarossa or a Reckless personality might help with the idea that a new Pirate is brought into their ranks, not so much that the Marrden Hound becomes a Pirate Marrden Hound.

What about these figures for Quartermaster:

Pictures

Spoiler:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pathfinder-Battles-Skull-Shackles-21-55-Tsadok-Goldtooth-/290961536254?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43bea8b4fe

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pathfinder-Battles-Skull-Shackles-24-55-Tessa-Fairwind-/331337371129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d253f0df9

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pathfinder-Battles-Skull-Shackles-44-55-Isabella-Locke-/291259126641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d0659371

I eventually want to do a unique squad of Pirates- all female, so one if not both of those will be used. The green guy could work with a paint job to his skin at minimum, although he could be a different race Pirate without any painting as well.

Here is the perfect figure for the quarter master (in my mind of what a quarter master might look like)

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/pbsk-027.html

I love the PAY, DIE, OR JOIN power . . . where did you get the Kheir ed-Din name?

I'm intrigued about placing the new pirate next to Barbarossa and seems thematic. I am leaning towards just doing small/medium at this point . . .

Are you finished painting him yet? Pics of progress so far?

where did you get the Kheir ed-Din name?

Kheir ed-Din Barbarossa is the actual name of one of the Barbarossa "RedBeard" brothers.

Are you finished painting him yet?

Not done yet, I haven't worked on him in a while. I will post pics of him (where he is at) and the cowboy I have finished soon.

I do think that might make a good quartermaster and I already have the figure to boot.

Hopefully soon I'll get back to working on some of our customs, been real busy of late.

This guy is still pretty rough, hopefully I'll finish him soon.

Wow!!! Looking good, Derek!!!

Very sweet! A little black-wash should finish him up.

Looks good, sir!!!

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Lieutenant General
Personality: Daring
Medium 5

Life: 5
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 4
110 Points

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kheir ed-Din or a pirate you control within clear site of Kheir ed-Din receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5 your opponent may reveal a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 6-15 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 16 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed common squad Pirate you control adjacent to Kheir ed-Din, if possible.

This is where I think we have him at so far. I am not so sure his stat line is where we want it though, but I will start with the Quartermaster soon.

Kheir ed-Din is real close to the actual/historical name . . . do we want to change it to be something similar, but fictitious per Heroscape norms?

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Lieutenant General sounds too official for pirates . . . how about Captain or Admiral?
Personality: Daring sounds too daring considering his power . . . how about Persuasive?
Medium 5

Life: 5
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 4
110 Points

Some slight suggested changes in the text follows:

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kheir ed-Din or a Pirate you control within clear site of Kheir ed-Din receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5 your opponent may reveal a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 6-15 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 16 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed Common Squad Pirate you control adjacent to Kheir ed-Din, if possible.

Kheir ed-Din is real close to the actual/historical name . . . do we want to change it to be something similar, but fictitious per Heroscape norms?

You are right here.

Class: Lieutenant General sounds too official for pirates . . . how about Captain or Admiral?
Personality: Daring sounds too daring considering his power . . . how about Persuasive?

Maybe his name becomes Admiral (Kheir ed-Din) with Pirate as class. Kind of like SGT. Drake being a soldier.

Personality- Persuasive might work and then Quartermaster power becomes any one with the persuasive personality is also considered reckless. Maybe?

I'm cool with Pirate as the class and either admiral/captiain in the title of the name.

Will the only way to get him to bond with the Barbary Corsairs mean that you have to draft the quarter master in your army? If so, I am wondering what the potential 450-550 army builds might look like. Will the quarter master be able to convert just pirate class heroes, or others as well (see quarter master's thread)? Does the quarter master add Reckless to any Persuasive figure AND get to change one other figure to Reckless?

Many questions, which could be quickly discussed if we were face to face.

Bump for Wave 4

Done painting the figures and card is ready to go. We just need to formalize some stuff to begin the playtesting stage.

My proposal after research and theorizing:

Kapudan Barbaros

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Captain
Personality: Persuasive
Medium 5

Life: 5
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 4
100 Points

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kapudan Barbaros or a Pirate you control within clear site of Kapudan Barbaros receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5 your opponent may reveal a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 6-15 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 16 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed Common Squad Pirate you control adjacent to Kapudan Barbaros, if possible.

I dropped the points by 10 because this would option would require the addition of the Quartermaster in order to bond with the pirates. We will need to define the Quartermaster's powers. But, I love the power for this figure!

Thoughts?

Play test would be in order with the change proposed, and playtest in general. Not real fond of the suggested name. Look forward to seeing your less gold version on the paint job. Other than that the stats and powers are real close.

Kapudan = Captain in Arabic, Barbaros = Red Beard in Italian understanding of the Arabic real name of the person in the 1500s.

I just went to the wiki, and this is what I came up with. Just to get the ball rolling.

I painted the figures (Kai, I have one for you that Derek purchased for you). Here is the first attempt at the card, pending name/powers/stats/playtesting/etc.

You have "clear site" instead of "clear sight" in the text.

Ha! Thanks for proof reading. The OP needs to be changed as well, or else I might miss it again. I will change the card.

Here is the version that I would like to start play-testing with (pending an acceptable name).

KAPUDAN BARBAROS

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Captain
Personality: Persuasive
Medium 5

Life: 5
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 4
100 Points

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kapudan Barbaros or a Pirate you control within clear sight of Kapudan Barbaros receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5 your opponent may reveal a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 6-15 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 16 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed Common Squad Pirate you control adjacent to Kapudan Barbaros, if possible.