Wave 4 - Fields of Wildfire - FINAL

Time to start talking Wave 4!

Here is a list of the ideas that have been thrown out there. Please let me know if you have ideas for units that aren't listed. If you would like to remove a figure from future consideration, let me know that as well.

Let's start thinking about which figures we would like to prioritize for the next wave.

KAI
Horned Demons, Pathfinder
Omnicron Soldiers
Kayla Willowsong, Ullar Elf Ranger
Varinn, Ullar Elf Ranger
Damien Evershade, Utgar Undead
Sisters of Sorrow, Utgar Undead
Raeza, Ullar Dragon
Forest Drake
Bronze medium dragons
Savaar Talongsong, Einar Gladiator
Vurgoyles, Mage Knight
Sir Agronn, Einar Hero
Lion Guards, Einar Unique Squad
Solonavi Domineer, Mage Knight
X13 Agent, Vydar Nakita
D&D Icons of Realms Starter Set, 6 figures
Mallekim, Djinn
Malcar, Troll Champion
DEVLIN SKYHAWK, Reaper Bones mini from last x-mas
XAVIER LAWSON, Reaper Bones mini from last x-mas
DELANDRIA, Reaper Bones mini from last x-mas
ELLEN STONE, Reaper Bones mini from last x-mas
UNA Jam Unique Hero or squad
Surion Windseeker, Air Primordial
War Troll from D&D War Drums
Minions of Utgar - (Barbarians) remod/repaint
Frostwolf
Wizard - Temple of the West
Mohican Shaman
Hush conversion
Unique Gnoll Archer mentioned in a Gnoll thread
Numerous possibilities from the Cool Figures thread

DEREK
Kamero/Ookami, Samurai/wolf rebuild
Huge Dragon, Large Bones figure to be painted
Djinni figure from Pathfinder
Sudema help, Pathfinder mini
Large Unique Minotaur Hero
Wasp
Forge Unique Hero
Airborne Elite Repaints - Unique squads with a general/commander (Damon/Derek)
Tarn Viking Common Squad Repaints (Damon/Derek)

DAMON
Tu-Rok-Sa, Abomination repaint Grok bonder
Bellochar, Eravan to Drow repaint
Valestrio, Valkrill Cultist hero
Nessa, Valkrill Cultist hero
Lea Roan/Argil - Jandar Scythian warrior
Cathar/Ascalon Calvary - Einar unique squad/hero
Severian, Einar Ascalon/Cathar hero
Thurbard and Thurbard mounted, Einar Ascalon/Cathar hero
Purple Beak-faced Dragon

These are the one's that I'm most excited about:

KAI
Ready for Play-Testing:
Damien Evershade, Utgar Undead
Sisters of Sorrow, Utgar Undead
Raeza, Ullar Dragon
Savaar Talongsong, Einar Gladiator

Need Modification:
Kayla Willowsong, Ullar Elf Ranger
Varinn, Ullar Elf Ranger
Mallekim, Djinn
Surion Windseeker, Air Primordial

Need Brainstorming/Stats:
Horned Demons, Pathfinder
Omnicron Soldiers
Forest Drake
Bronze medium dragons
X13 Agent, Vydar Nakita

Kai, can you put a Sticky on this thread? Thanks!

Here is my input for Wave 4:

For Kai, I would really like to see the X13 Agent and Windseeker (Air Primordial) developed. The Djinn and Kayla Willowsong look intriguing, along with the ones you mentioned.

For Derek, I would love to see that other Minotaur developed, the new Bones Dragon pursued, and the Samuari/Wolf combo (your initial thoughts are so cool).

For Me, Tu-Rok-Sa, Bellochar, Valestrio, Nessa and maybe Lea Roan/Argil. The beak-faced dragon is too cool to ignore too much longer.

The one thing missing in all this is common squads - which is fine with me. We could do some of the Tarn Vikings repainted as a common squad, maybe bonding with unique vikings (thorgrim, finn, eldgrim, tarns)? Or maybe do Izumi Samaurai repainted as common squad? Or maybe hunt down some common Doggin figures?

Sorry I haven't paid any attention to stuff beyond wave 3, so hopefully we can still do some brainstorming on these.

For me I think the Djinni, Wasp, and Dragon could all be part of a large expansion.

I am perfectly fine going unique here. If we wanted to go commons we could revive the cannoneers, brainstorm another, or make the executioners a common squad (at $8 a box not to bad). Looking forward to finishing up wave 3 and moving on to wave 4.

For your inspiration:

Yep - it might be time to put together a short list of figures we want to develop for Wave 4, figures to focus our play tests and discussions upon.

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/89018
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/80002
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/80007
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/77161
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/77145
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/77118
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/77052
I used to see a female dwarf riding a bear and a 3 pack of fungus men.

I was thinking about ordering some of these if you are interested let me know.

Ghost King and Mummy Captain look great! .. but I am partial to Undead '_'


The Monk is interesting as well but I just picked up a Pathfinder version of him based on some ideas IXE had.

89018: Sajan, Iconic Monk - C3V has 2 or 3 monks/ninjas in the works, lets see what they come up with
80002: Deadeye Slim - I need this one for your cowboy in the works
80007: The Black Mist - this one too
77161: Ghost King - this one is looking like a Shadow Assassin or Phantom Knight hero - I would like one
77145: Mummy Captain - too cool to pass up - let's think about what need the mummies might have first
77118: Tiviel, Hellborn Rogue - meh, let's see what C3V comes up with their similar figure this wave. If she looks interesting maybe we can build on it
77052: Aina, Female Valkyrie - I think it would be cool to add a female bonding Viking to go with Finn, Thorgim, and Eldgrim (maybe when she dies, she provides one extra life on the card you put her on?)

Thanks Derek!

Time to finalize Wave 4?

In my mind, here is our short list (units we have started play-testing or brainstormed to some degree):

KAI
Maleus, Einar Gladiator
Damien Evershade, Utgar Undead
Sisters of Sorrow, Utgar Undead
Raeza, Ullar Dragon
Agent Scarlett, Vydar Unique Nakita
Surion Windseeker, Jandar Air Primordial
Fire Primordial, Utgar Lava/Fire Primordial
Roukai the Rune Caster, Aquilla Varkaanan Hero
Kayla Willowsong, Ullar Elf Ranger
Varinn, Ullar Elf Ranger

DEREK
Khoravian Assassins - Vydar Shadow common squad
Rattlesnake Reed - Utgar Cowboy hero
Quick Draw Hardin - Valkrill Cowboy hero
Kheir ed-Din Barbarossa, Pirate Hero
Tanerios - Utgar Minotaur Hero

DAMON
Tu-Rok-Sa, Abomination repaint Grok bonder
Bellochar, Eravan to Drow repaint
Valestrio, Valkrill Cultist hero
Nessa, Valkrill Cultist hero
Rahabik Drako - Purple Beak-faced Dragon

My proposal for Wave 4 (to give us a target)

Pack 1 (Commons)
Khoravian Assassins - Vydar Shadow common squad
Sisters of Sorrow, Utgar Undead

Pack 2 (Good Guy uniques)
Maleus, Einar Gladiator
Roukai the Rune Caster, Aquilla Varkaanan Hero
Kayla Willowsong, Ullar Elf Ranger
Varinn, Ullar Elf Ranger
Surion Windseeker, Jandar Air Primordial

Pack 3 (Bad guy uniques)
Fire Primordial, Utgar Lava/Fire Primordial
Damien Evershade, Utgar Undead
Tu-Rok-Sa, Utgar Grok bonder
Rattlesnake Reed - Utgar Cowboy hero
Kheir ed-Din Barbarossa, Utgar Pirate Hero

Pack 4 (More bad guy uniques)
Quick Draw Hardin - Valkrill Cowboy hero
Bellochar, Utgar Eravan to Drow repaint
Valestrio, Valkrill Cultist hero
Nessa, Valkrill Cultist hero
Agent Scarlett, Vydar Unique Nakita

Expansion Pack (Larger figures)
Rahabik Drako - Purple Beak-faced Dragon
Raeza, Ullar Dragon
Tanerios - Utgar Minotaur Hero



Others still on the drawing board to consider that have been proposed, but I'm sure I have missed some:

KAI
Black Arrow Assassins, Valkrill Unique Squad
Bronze medium dragons
Cleric Squad - Jandar Unique Squad
D&D Icons of Realms Starter Set, 6 figures
DELANDRIA, Reaper Bones mini from last x-mas
DEVLIN SKYHAWK, Reaper Bones mini from last x-mas
ELLEN STONE, Reaper Bones mini from last x-mas
Frostwolf
Horned Demons, Pathfinder
Hush conversion
Lion Guards, Einar Unique Squad
Malcar, Troll Champion
Mallekim, Djinn
Minions of Utgar - (Barbarians) remod/repaint
Mohican Shaman
Omnicron Soldier/s - Jandar Unique/Common squad, or common hero
Owlbear Totem Spirit
Rakhalar the War Troll, Utgar Troll
Sir Agronn, Einar Hero
Solonavi Domineer, Mage Knight
UNA Jam Unique Hero or squad
Unique Gnoll Archer mentioned in a Gnoll thread
Vurgoyles, Mage Knight
War Troll from D&D War Drums
Wizard - Temple of the West
XAVIER LAWSON, Reaper Bones mini from last x-mas
Forest Drake
Giant Spider

DEREK
Airborne Elite Repaints - Unique squads with a general/commander (Damon/Derek)
Bones Aliens and Saucer
Canoneers squad with cannon
Cogs AT-43
Djinni figure from Pathfinder
Forge Unique Hero
Huge Dragon, Large Bones figure to be painted
Kamero/Ookami, Samurai/wolf rebuild
Quartermaster, Pirate Hero
Sudema help, Pathfinder mini
Tarn Viking Common Squad Repaints (Damon/Derek)
Ursala - Dwarf on Bear
Wasp
Wizard hero

DAMON
Cathar/Ascalon Calvary - Einar unique squad/hero
Lea Roan/Argil - Jandar Scythian warrior
Severian, Einar Ascalon/Cathar hero
Thurbard and Thurbard mounted, Einar Ascalon/Cathar hero

This looks good to me. I need the most work on the new Rangers (going back to the drawing board). Might be able to squeeze in the Omnicron Soldier/Squad leader in there but he's in the shop right now : )


Nomad: proposal for Wave 4 (to give us a target)

Pack 1 (Commons)
Khoravian Assassins - Vydar Shadow common squad - card done
Sisters of Sorrow, Utgar Undead - card done

Pack 2 (Good Guy uniques)
Malleus, Einar Gladiator - card done
Roukai the Rune Caster, Aquilla Varkaanan Hero  - card done
Kayla Willowsong, Ullar Elf Ranger - rework in progress, need play-testing
Varinn, Ullar Elf Ranger - rework in progress, need play-testing
Surion Windseeker, Jandar Air Primordial - card done

Pack 3 (Bad guy uniques)
Fire Primordial, Utgar Lava/Fire Primordial - final stats pending
Damien Evershade, Utgar Undead - card done
Tu-Rok-Sa, Utgar Grok bonder
Rattlesnake Reed - Utgar Cowboy hero
Kheir ed-Din Barbarossa, Utgar Pirate Hero

Pack 4 (More bad guy uniques)
Quick Draw Hardin - Valkrill Cowboy hero
Bellochar, Utgar Eravan to Drow repaint -card done
Valestrio, Valkrill Cultist hero - card done
Nessa, Valkrill Cultist hero - card done
Agent Scarlett, Vydar Unique Nakita  - card done

Expansion Pack (Larger figures)
Rahabik Drako - Purple Beak-faced Dragon - rework in progress, need play-testing
Raeza, Ullar Dragon  - card done
Tanerios - Utgar Minotaur Hero

Updating the proposal for Wave 4. Let me know what you think.

Wave theme/title: "Turbulent Rumors"

Pack 1 (Good Guy Commons, 5 figures): "Shadow and Matrix"
Khorvairian Assassins - FINAL
Pulsar Soldiers - play-testing

Pack 2 (Bad Guy Commons, 4 figures): "Fire and Sorrow"
Sister of Sorrow - FINAL
Obsidian Wyldfire - brainstorming

Pack 3 (Good Guy Uniques, 6 figures): "Heroes of the Tempest"
Malleus - FINAL
Roukai the Rune Caster - FINAL
Surion Windseeker - play-testing, but close
Agent Scarlett - play-testing, but close
Kayla Willowsong - brainstorming
Varinn - brainstorming

Pack 4 (Bad guy Uniques - 6 figures): "Heroes of the Chaos"
Fire Primordial - play-testing (still needs a name)
Damien Evershade - FINAL
Tu-Rok-Sa - play-testing, but close
Bellochar - play-testing, but close
Valestrio Scirh - FINAL
Nessa Scirh - FINAL

Large Expansion Pack: "Drake and Dragon"
Tearik Drako - play-testing
Raeza - play-testing


These are figures from my original proposal that haven't picked up much traction and could be saved for the next wave:
Rattlesnake Reed - brainstorming
Kheir ed-Din Barbarossa - brainstorming
Quick Draw Hardin - Valkrill Cowboy hero
Tanerios - Utgar Minotaur Hero

Bump. Please share your thoughts on my previous post dated July 8.

I have updated cards done for all figures except AKA Deathstorm, Obsidian Wyldfire, Kayla, Varinn, and Tearik. Kayla, Varinn, and Tearik could use more playtesting. We need a name for Deathstorm before I can do his card. I don't have Wyldfire figures, so I can't do a card for them with out getting some pictures.

Thanks

Nomad wrote:Bump. Please share your thoughts on my previous post dated July 8.

I have updated cards done for all figures except AKA Deathstorm, Obsidian Wyldfire, Kayla, Varinn, and Tearik. Kayla, Varinn, and Tearik could use more playtesting. We need a name for Deathstorm before I can do his card. I don't have Wyldfire figures, so I can't do a card for them with out getting some pictures.

Thanks

I am in Nashville, TN at the moment - but I'll get pics of the Wyldfire figures when I am back next week.

And yeah .. I know I need a name for Deathstorm : ( I'll see if the fires of inspiration hit in the next week as well.

I'd love to get in more play-testing. Been on the road a bit but hope to dust off some 'Scape in late October.

OK, I really want to start releasing this wave to share with the rest of the community (or at least be done with them). I am updating the proposal again. Please compare to the last couple of proposals, dated to May and July.

Let me know what you think.

Wave theme/title: "Turbulent Rumors"

Pack 1 (Good Guy Commons, 5 figures): "Shadow and Matrix"
Khorvairian Assassins - FINAL
Pulsar Soldiers - FINAL

Pack 2 (Bad Guy Commons, 4 figures): "Fire and Sorrow"
Sister of Sorrow - FINAL
Obsidian Wyldfire - play-testing, but close to final

Pack 3 (Good Guy Uniques, 5 figures): "Heroes of the Tempest"
Malleus - FINAL
Roukai the Rune Caster - FINAL
Surion Windseeker - play-testing, but close to final.
Agent Scarlett - play-testing, but close to final.
Raeza - play-testing, but close to final.

Pack 4 (Bad guy Uniques - 6 figures): "Heroes of the Chaos"
Vadik Hollestrum - FINAL
Damien Evershade - FINAL
Tu-Rok-Sa - play-testing, but close to final
Bellochar - play-testing, but close to final
Valestrio Scirh - FINAL
Nessa Scirh - FINAL

15 units is almost the same as our previous releases. We don't always have to have exclusive or large packs included. So, I'm in favor of going with this and getting some momentum . . . it has been a while.

These are figures from my original and subsequent proposal that haven't picked up much traction and could be saved for the next wave:
Rattlesnake Reed - brainstorming
Kheir ed-Din Barbarossa - brainstorming
Quick Draw Hardin - Valkrill Cowboy hero
Tanerios - Utgar Minotaur Hero
Kayla Willowsong - brainstorming
Varinn - brainstorming
Tearik Drako - play-testing

How about this for Wave Pack contents:

Nomad wrote:

Wave theme/title: "Turbulent Rumors"

Pack 1 (Good Guy Commons, 5 figures): "Shadow and Matrix"
Khorvairian Assassins - FINAL
Pulsar Soldiers - FINAL

Pack 2 (Bad Guy Commons, 4 5 figures): "Fire and Sorrow"
Bellochar - FINAL (going with the 'Fire' theme)
Sister of Sorrow - FINAL
Obsidian Wyldfire - FINAL


Pack 3 (Good Guy Uniques, 5 figures): "Heroes of the Tempest"
Malleus - FINAL
Roukai the Rune Caster - FINAL
Surion Windseeker - FINAL
Agent Scarlett - FINAL.
Raeza - FINAL (at 140 points).

Pack 4 (Bad guy Uniques - 6 5 figures): "Heroes of the Chaos"
Vadik Hollestrum - FINAL
Damien Evershade - FINAL
Tu-Rok-Sa - FINAL
Valestrio Scirh - FINAL
Nessa Scirh - FINAL

I'm good to go with all final and the breakdown for packs as suggested, although does it make more sense to move Vadik to the Fire and Sorrow pack instead of Bellochar?

I'm not really liking the name of the Wave. I may come up with something different . . . It seems like the biggest game changer in this wave is Vadik in combo with Lava Resistant figures.

Volcarren Spring
Volcarren Surge/Upsurge
Volcarren Awakening
Shurrak's/Brunak's Progress
Hollestrum's Arrival
etc.

Moving all of the others to final are OK with me. Although, I think Raeza should be 130 points - compromise at 135?

Volcarren Rage?

Wildfires of Volcarra?

One of the place names in Heroscape lore located in Volcarren is "Fields of Fire."

How about "Fields of Fire" or "Fields of Wildfire"?

Good find!

FIELDS OF WILDFIRE sounds good

I prefer "Fields of Wildfire" as well and have already begun editing the cards.

Nomad wrote:I prefer "Fields of Wildfire" as well and have already begun editing the cards.

Excellent!  guess I need to start working on Bio's : )

Do you have a deadline that you could suggest for when you'd like to release?

Deadline . . . hmm.

I hoping to start posting the first couple of units on Heroscapers in the next couple of weeks, and then a couple units every week after that. I still have a lot of work to do on the Books for each unit.

Want some hard deadlines? Here is one possible order of release with dates:

December 2: Introducing the wave - group shot and list of figures

December 9: Shadow and Matrix - Assassins and Pulsars (let's lead off with two great designs)

December 16: Scirh - Valestrio and Nessa

December 23: Roukai and Malleus

December 30: Damien and Sister of Sorrow

January 6: Bellochar and Tu-Rok-Sa

January 13: Scarlett and Surion

January 20: Raezza

January 27: Our flagships of the wave - Vadik and Wyldfire

Perfect! I'll update my Outlook calendar : )

Posted on Heroscapers . . .



Bubbling up from the molten fields of Volcarren, ignited into existence by a Primordial, wild fire begins to spread destruction. Adding to the chaos, Valkrill brings forth a skilled archer whose arrows seek the heart of his target, two heroes from the dragon cult, and a sister-hood that brings sorrow to their foes. A Marro warlord and a Drow shadow caster have been summoned by Utgar.

A fourth Nakita is brought to aid the agents of Vydar. Mika's allies from Khorvair are reported to strike from the shadows. A caster of runes is heard to be running with Aquilla's wolf-packs. A wild gladiator is breaking shields and soulborgs are entering the matrix for General Einar. The winds blow strong in a mighty tempest for Jandar and a ferocious dragon is causing havoc for the enemies of Ullar.

The battle for the wellsprings of Valhalla continues in the Fields of Wildfire.