W-5 Kheir ed-Din Barbarossa- pirate hero brainstorming

I had another mechanic for Pay, Join, or Die. It keeps some of the same ideas (bring back Pirates) but uses the "Pay" in a different way.

CAPTAIN’S CURRENCY
At the beginning of the game, choose a Unique Hero or Unique Squad controlled by an opponent and place 3 gold Currency markers on that Army Card.

RANSOM
Once per turn, when a figure attacked by Kapudan Barbaros or a Pirate you control within 8 clear sight of Kapudan Barbaros receives enough wounds to be destroyed, an opponent may move 1 Currency marker to this Army Card to ignore those wounds.

RECRUITS
Before taking a turn with Kapudan Barbaros, you may remove 1 Currency marker to activate Recruits. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 1 – 5, nothing happens. If you roll a 6 – 11, place 1 previously destroyed common squad pirate you control in your start zone. If you roll 12 – 16, place 2 pirates. If you roll, 17 – 20, place 3 pirates.

Wow, that is pretty creative!

I really like the simplicity (in comparison) of the original power "Pay, Die, or Join" and would like to pursue it further in play-testing. Not that I'm trying to squash the idea . . .

Nomad wrote:Wow, that is pretty creative!

I really like the simplicity (in comparison) of the original power "Pay, Die, or Join" and would like to pursue it further in play-testing. Not that I'm trying to squash the idea . . .

Thanks, it needs a little wording help. And I'm sure the concept of giving Currency to another player is odd at first - but it makes your opponent have to decide if they want to loose a figure to give you a chance to bring back more Pirates. Certainly has an effect late-game : )

Let's try it next time.

I know that Derek really wanted to put out a Quartermaster pirate figure that would have allowed for Barbarossa to bond with the pirates . . . should we wait, put forward our own Quartermaster, or pursue developing this figure without the Quartermaster.

I am thinking to pursue without the Quartermaster. The Quartermaster would be added on its own merits and with its own additional points to an army build.

What do you think. I've painted the figure - and it looks really cool. I have a figure for you as well and will paint when ready.

I think he should be able to bond with the Pirates now : )  

This is the Quartermaster, right?

https://crypticalliance.forumotion.com/t151-quartermaster

Nomad wrote:Wow, that is pretty creative!

I really like the simplicity (in comparison) of the original power "Pay, Die, or Join" and would like to pursue it further in play-testing. Not that I'm trying to squash the idea . . .

Cool, let's go back to the original version : )

Regarding a couple of posts ago. Yes, that is the current figure being considered as the Quartermaster . . . the thread for the Quartermaster reveals that he might be a defector from the British navy. But, Derek wasn't sold on that and was thinking about finding a different figure for the Quartermaster. I really liked the figure and I really like the possible backstory.

Bonding now is fine with me . . . but I think Derek was thinking that this figure's personality was "Persuasive" rather the "Reckless".

What pirate isn't Reckless? If we changed his personality to reckless, he would bond with the pirates right now.

I understand Derek's thought about the Quartermaster having a Parmenio type of power to name one other figure as Reckless to bond with the pirates. This opens up potentially more alternative bonders.

I am at an impasse. I initially wanted Babarbossa to bond right away with the pirate but I want to be respectful of Derek's design wishes.

Nomad wrote:Regarding a couple of posts ago. Yes, that is the current figure being considered as the Quartermaster . . . the thread for the Quartermaster reveals that he might be a defector from the British navy. But, Derek wasn't sold on that and was thinking about finding a different figure for the Quartermaster. I really liked the figure and I really like the possible backstory.

Bonding now is fine with me . . . but I think Derek was thinking that this figure's personality was "Persuasive" rather the "Reckless".

What pirate isn't Reckless? If we changed his personality to reckless, he would bond with the pirates right now.

I understand Derek's thought about the Quartermaster having a Parmenio type of power to name one other figure as Reckless to bond with the pirates. This opens up potentially more alternative bonders.

I am at an impasse. I initially wanted Babarbossa to bond right away with the pirate but I want to be respectful of Derek's design wishes.

Good with me. Let's keep the Quartermaster as a Parmenio like figure = who makes other folks Reckless to bring them into the Pirate bonding circle.

I am good with the other figure as a quartermaster. If Barbarossa has class pirate, we can limit pirates to getting the reckless designation (or pirates/(some other fitting designation) to open up possibilities.

Here are my suggestions . . .



Kapudan Barbaros (I could also see the name as just Barbaros)

General: Einar (I like the idea of spreading the pirates out over the generals, like the cowboys. His color scheme seems to fit Einar)
Planet: Earth

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Pirate
Personality: Persuasive
Medium 5

Life: 5
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 4
100 Points

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kapudan Barbaros or a Pirate you control within clear sight of Kapudan Barbaros receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-7 your opponent may reveal a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 8-14 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 15 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed Common Squad Pirate you control adjacent to Kapudan Barbaros, if possible.

First draft of the card . . .

We have done 6+ play tests with this figure. He is very good. I am not going suggest any changes, but I am thinking we might want to subtract one from his life, attack, or defense. I also wonder if we could tweak his power to work with the Buccaneers of Tortuga as well.

Kapudan Barbaros

General: Einar
Planet: Earth

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Pirate
Personality: Persuasive
Medium 5

Life: 5
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 4
100 Points

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kapudan Barbaros or a Pirate you control within clear sight of Kapudan Barbaros receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-7 your opponent may reveal and remove a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 8-14 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 15 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed Common Squad Pirate you control adjacent to Kapudan Barbaros, if possible.

Very interesting figure! I like the interaction with the other player making a choice on the die roll.

I could see dropping Defense to 3, since he's not heavily armored for a human.

All in favor of dropping defense to 3. We could include rogue with pirate for power to include Buccaneers of Tortuga. Also makes me wonder if we include rogue or pirate for Nathaniel Ward to increase some options there, with maybe a size restriction?

Something like this?

Kapudan Barbaros

General: Einar
Planet: Earth

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Pirate
Personality: Persuasive
Medium 5

Life: 5
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 3
100 Points

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kapudan Barbaros, a Pirate, or a Rogue you control within clear sight of Kapudan Barbaros receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-7 your opponent may reveal and remove a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 8-14 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 15 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed Common Squad Pirate or Rogue you control adjacent to Kapudan Barbaros, if possible.

I like. What do you think about changing roll to 1-5 and 16 or higher? Don't think it would effect cost and might balance out addition of rogues.

I like. What do you think about changing roll to 1-5 and 16 or higher? Don't think it would effect cost and might balance out addition of rogues.

In all of my playtests, the revealing an order marker didn't come into play much for a variety of reasons - no numbered order markers to reveal (end of round), the figure wasn't worth saving to lose a turn (usually a common), or the roll just didn't land on a 7 or less. I wouldn't change it. My 2 cents.

On the other end, a 16 or higher might be worth considering. In the battles that Barbaros and friends rolled, the usually got a couple of Corsairs back into the battle. It really doesn't happen that often, but it can be a big bonus. And with various glyphs and powers out there that give d20 bonuses, this is a good idea.

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kapudan Barbaros, a Pirate, or a Rogue you control within clear sight of Kapudan Barbaros receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-7 your opponent may reveal and remove a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 8-15 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 16 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed Common Squad Pirate or Rogue you control adjacent to Kapudan Barbaros, if possible.

By the way, I still think this is one of the coolest powers!

Kapudan Barbaros
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Figure: Reaper, Dark Heaven Legends Bones, Barnabus Frost, Pirate Captain (painted)

General: Einar
Planet: Earth

Species: Human
Unique Hero
Class: Pirate
Personality: Persuasive
Medium 5

Life: 5
Move: 5
Range: 1
Attack: 4
Defense: 3
100 Points

PAY, DIE, OR JOIN
When a small or medium figure attacked by Kapudan Barbaros, a Pirate, or a Rogue you control within clear sight of Kapudan Barbaros receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-7 your opponent may reveal and remove a numbered Order Marker to ignore any wounds received. If you roll 8-15 destroy the defending figure. If you roll a 16 or higher, destroy the figure and place a previously destroyed Common Squad Pirate or Rogue you control adjacent to Kapudan Barbaros, if possible.


Character Bio:
Curled up in the finest velvet, he dreamed of the sea; the cunning invasions of distant shores, the plunder of immense value, the respect and wealth and adventure that accompanied his former days. In the morning his servants could not find him when calling him for breakfast. Einar had summoned the great Barbaros to ensure victory through his persuasive powers of negotiation on the seas of Valhalla.


- Rulings and Clarifications -

- N/A

- Combinations and Synergies -

Synergy Benefits Offered

-EBON ARMOR: Animated Materiel/Eternal War
As a Unique Human Hero, if an Ebon Armor figure is destroyed you may place that Ebon Armor on Kapudan Barbaros' Card. If Kapudan Barbaros is destroyed by a normal or special attack, or by a leaving engagement attack, you may replace Kapudan Barbaros with that Ebon Armor on the battlefield.

-HATAMOTO TARO: Adjacent Tough 1
As a figure who follows Einar, Kapudan Barbaros causes an adjacent, friendly Hatamoto Taro to add one automatic shield to his defense roll using his ADJACENT TOUGH special power.

-PIRATE or ROGUE COMMON SQUAD FIGURE: Pay, Die, or Join
Destroyed Pirate or Rogue common squad figure may rejoin the battle via Kapudan Barbaros' PAY, DIE, OR JOIN special power. Pirate and Rogue common squads include Barbary Corsairs, Beakface Sneaks and Buccaneers of Tortuga.

Synergy Benefits Received

-COUNT RAYMOND: Maneuver 9
As a Human that follows Einar, Kapudan Barbaros may benefit from Count Raymond’s MANEUVER 9 leaving engagement roll.

-NATHANIEL WARD: Pirate Leader
As a Pirate, Kapudan Barbaros may benefit from Nathaniel Ward’s PIRATE SUPREMACY d20 enhancement.

Synergy Imposed

- N/A

looks good.

OK, are we happy to make Barbaros final?

Yes. Don't really care too much, but if I was able to get a decent picture of the paint job I did could an alternate card get made? Only if it was as simple as substituting picture and not redoing hit zones and the more time consuming stuff.

Sure - please take the pic with a white background.

Barbaros has been shared on Heroscapers (3/16/20). Derek, I will do the alternate card per our conversation.

Curled up in the finest velvet, he dreamed of the sea; the cunning invasions of distant shores, the plunder of immense value, the respect and wealth and adventure that accompanied his former days. In the morning his servants could not find him when calling him for breakfast. Einar had summoned the great Barbarossa to ensure victory on the seas of Valhalla.

Improve if you like.

Very nice. Just adding a line if that is OK.

Curled up in the finest velvet, he dreamed of the sea; the cunning invasions of distant shores, the plunder of immense value, the respect and wealth and adventure that accompanied his former days. In the morning his servants could not find him when calling him for breakfast. Einar had summoned the great Barbaros to ensure victory through his persuasive powers of negotiation on the seas of Valhalla.